Export Problem?--i Dunno The Prob Actualy

[user_deleted]

when i export my project things look different

i have a mask inverted over the footage and then a new photoshop image of that masked area is inside of that. WHen i add a corner pin I can track along not smooth but within the mask fine i can adjust later.

but

the problem is when i am working in shake everything looks fine and dandy. When i file out its not what it looked like in the comp in shake. why i really dont know why. the begining corner pin keyframe like doesnt work or something i dont know.

heres a link to the comp inside shake(1st frame).

image

heres a video of whats being exported

http://www.billyhustles.com/images/badboy.mov

help = welcomed ha thanks for reading

[user_deleted]

i think the general consens is that photoshop files do funky things sometimes..
have you tried replacing it with a tiff or png?

++ christoph ++

[user_deleted]

YAY the png file works great.. i ges ill start to just use png's from now on it seem that they are working smoother then psd's

thanks a TON for all the help

[user_deleted]

psd importer is buggy, like everything done since apple bought that fantastic software.... (except killing windows users) I wish they never bought nothingreal's talents.
I love the idea of mulitlayer painted mattes and 3d renders... some info on alternative oss solution would be nice (openexr?)
regards

[user_deleted]

Janimatic I think you are being a little hard on Apple. I would think that most or the problems are more to do with the proprietry nature of aspects of PSD files which is why after effects is the only package that works properly with them. (look at FCP's issues). This is also why photoshop transfer modes look different in Shake. (RTFM)

Grab the Pro Apps plugins for Photoshop off this site and use the save layers to files automated action to save your multlayered PSDs to IFF's (Maya flavour). A better idea is to hassle Adobe about propper EXR support rather then the fudge they have now.

And tell me what's buggy about smoothcam or adaptive retiming or any number of additions made since Apple stepped in?

And isn't it kind of insulting to the Nothing Real team who went to apple to say that now they have a little more job security they are crap?

Apologies but I'm bored with the apple bashing.

Cheers,

Toby

[user_deleted]

hey soupkitch,

well i think nothing real would NEVER release a version with this kind of image rendering troubles.. because every single function is really optimized. simple rule. Bugs happen to everyone, but breaking the software design rule, no. There was no toy function, just very optimised basic nodes which you had to plug together to make your own.... that was the main concept (as usual in comp softs but even more in shake).
I know many softwares dealing properly with psd :
xsi, dutruc (propriatary french comp software) to name a few (maya doesn't look very stable using psd either ! so you are wright, maybe it's not really easy but, look around , it's possible. if adobe should be working on it then let apple contact them)
Like someone said on this site, the cache has never been working properly under osx. If you want to us shake for film, linux is probably the only way but the price is different (by the way nothing wrong with smoothcam and retiming). I use the pshp plugs like you said but the multilayer feature would be really usefull.
While Nothing real was a revolution -the first highend comp software available commercially-, I don't want anyone to feel insulted but there is (or was) a problem of quality testing with earlier shake versions.
I don't think all this is insulting the great nreal people, i think they do suffer of the loud administrative process of such a huge company, which probably provides in depth beta testing, but maybe not really used to film industry... too bad because they probably have huge dev ressource.
I am sorry to say, but apple fans like to insult everything outisde of their guru (microsoft blabla etc) while both have an awfulll commerial politic : they are very similar... Nothing wrong with criticising a dev company to put some pressure on them. Specially when they have a lot of money and ressource. Why not apple? Remember the great feedback from NR team we had on this site when it was independant company... now it's silent (i guess support is only made by email now). It looks like huge companies are bad at inovation.
Ok i will stop this now, i think the people are very aware of such issues anyway (and are tired of reading this long message)...
Anyway good luck to all the dev teams and see you when you will sell us commercial licenses of your fantastic OS on our PC !!

sorry for the long message
Best regards

[deke-kincaid]

well i think nothing real would NEVER release a version with this kind of image rendering troubles..

How long have you been using Shake? I seem to remember plenty of major bugs with Timex, Matchmover, Tracker, Rotoshape, etc...(I can go on forever). Especially the previous I just named were extremely buggy and would randomly crash Shake up till v3 (rotoshape was completely unusable before 3).

Like someone said on this site, the cache has never been working properly under osx. If you want to us shake for film, linux is probably the only way but the price is different (by the way nothing wrong with smoothcam and retiming).

Cache node has actually been in Shake since 2.4(I forget, might have been in 2.3), just hidden and it has always had issues long before Apple came on board. Also linux is not the only way for film. I have used Shake on osx for many films. Except for caching, much of the speed differences between the linux and osx are pretty much gone since v4. If you are having troubles, then it is most likely an improperly configured box.

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QUOTE
I seem to remember plenty of major bugs with Timex, Matchmover, Tracker, Rotoshape, etc...(I can go on forever).

I started using shake at 2 (2.1 or something? it was under irix).
Indeed there was some bugs but it wasn't causing rendering problem.. (the only render problems i can remember was from plugins)
Like i said every soft has bugs, but shake internal image workflow is one of the best

regards