Hi everyone,
I'm looking for informations about cloud solution software dedicated for compositing vfx, is something like this? Cloud software based on Saas solution, maybe tools for compositing contaiend in the cloud ? I don't know well Nuke I don't have a money for software and hardware to spend for my learn.
Problem is comp is bandwidth intensive to the extreme . Imagine netflix on steroids. You simply couldnt afford the kind of hardware your network would need for this.
Hire somebody.
You think that's impossible cloud solution for compositing because bandwidth intensive to the extreme. Did I understand correctly your response? I think, cloud solution based on Saas structure will be revoluctionary 
especially for my learn if I can not afford for hardware. I'm looking for informations about cloud solution software dedicated for compositing vfx, maybe is somtehing like this.
Im not saying it is impossible it certainly exists in form of renderfarms (that is after all edits are done send to farm and collect back in few days). Im just saying its impractical in the edit stage. By all means if you need no feedback then its fine. But its awfully hard to get anything done in the blind.
Thing is when i use nuke or AE my biggest bottleneck is how fast i can move my data from disk to screen and back. Now im moving 500-1000 MB/s a second to the deck and its still often the slowest part now even a 1000Mb/s (note the small b versus big B bit versus byte) symmetric internert connection is 4-8 times slower than this, and has awfully lot more latency. Most likely a user gets 100 or 10 thats 40-80 to a 400 to 800 tilmes slower. And i am not a dedicated comp artist, ssd drives just are blindingly fast today.
Hardware wise getting a disk capable of moving 500 MB/s costs you about 200$ versus the network solution that does 1/8th of that speed costs you 200$ per month, if at all available in your locale. God forbid your operator having any transfer caps and you would chew your bandwidth allocation in day.
So in terms of costits cheaper to find a comp software that works on your local machine than buy it as SAAS, today, but it might change. SO what im saying is with current tech it cheaper to buy the hardware yourself. Software you can get for free if you can put up with opensource.
The situation is much better for offline final rendering where the data has to be pushed trough the pipes only once.
Revolutionary or not its still a good idea to do it locally the operator is still more expensive than your savings. So i dont see SAAS as practical at current tech levels. On the oethrhand you can get nearly saas by renting your comp software by the week or month for your local machine. This is allready available.
For example you can rent After effects with 24$ month, for your local machine, pair that with 100-200$ for a new disk your home free. For most simple stuff thats way enough for modern computers. Im not seeing saas getting anything cheaper here.
Thanks for your reply, but AE isn't full cloud solution, I have only subscription for software, plugins, tools and projects is saved in cloud.
I think about solution like this: I upload everything to the cloud and I work on files that has just dropped. In this solution (if there) you won't be worry about space for disk, and good hardware.
Nuke haven't that solution, right? I work on AE (version 5.5, yes its old:)) but still I think AE isn't for professional compositing, for example there isn't Node-solution .
upload everything to the cloud and I work on files that has just dropped. In this solution (if there) you won't be worry
about space for disk, and good hardware.
You just need a superhumanly fast network which is more expensive than good hardware. On top of thatyou would still need good hardware to cache the data. Sorry thats just the way the tech works out.[b]
[/b]So no you could not. Besides you need the disk to upload.[b]
[/b]So we need anouther 10 years of network tech for that to work out even then its not for people without google fiber :)[b]
[/b]But sub AE quality for lowres videos no problem slow but could be done.