Color Shift Between Fcp And Shake

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I've found that files opened separately in both FCP and Shake have a different look when viewed on an external monitor. The Shake image appears to have a different black level, brightness level, or gamma (take your pick). This appears to occur independently of any FCP file output. However, when the Shake file is rendered, then imported into FCP, it still retains a different look on the monitor. Is this difference just an immutable fact between the two programs, or is there some way to achieve consistency. (Ideally, I should be able to import an uncompressed HD file into Shake from FCP, and if unaltered in any way, should be getting an identical looking file exported back into FCP.) Thanks.

[user_deleted]

This is from the late breaking news bit on apples website.

QUOTE
Shake and Final Cut Pro display and process the gamma of QuickTime movies and RGB
image files differently.
Shake makes no automatic changes to the gamma of QuickTime or RGB Image files and
sequences. It is up to users to make sure that their monitor is properly calibrated for
their production environment, and that the ViewerLookup parameters are set to the
values required for images to display properly in the Shake Viewer. In particular, the
default viewerGamma value is 1, which leaves the gamma of images displayed in the
Viewer unchanged.
Final Cut Pro, on the other hand, makes some assumptions about the gamma of
QuickTime and RGB image files that are imported into a project. The gamma of
imported QuickTime and RGB image files is treated differently in sequences set to
render in 8- or 10-bit YUV.
Note: While it is possible to recalibrate Apple displays via the Display Calibrator
Assistant in the Displays pane of System Preferences, users are advised to leave the
gamma of their monitors to the 1.8 Standard Gamma setting when working in
Final Cut Pro. ColorSync settings are not used by either Shake or Final Cut Pro for
automatic color calibration or compensation of any kind.

QuickTime Movies
Issue: When importing a QuickTime movie created with Shake into Final Cut Pro,
users may notice a difference in the displayed gamma of the image. This is because
Final Cut Pro automatically lowers the gamma of sequences playing in the Canvas on
your computer

[user_deleted]

I appreciate your help. However, the differences appear to be more than just having a different look on a monitor. The problem is that the gamma of the files themselves appears to shift, thus interfering with the ability to intercut Shake footage with FCP footage. Is there a workaround, or is there other software which will allow me to perform dustbusting without otherwise altering the footage in any way? Thanks.

[user_deleted]

without knowing your source footage, your editing codec, your export options, your fileout setting, it's nearly impossible to tell what went wrong...

i have brought qt movies from fcp to shake and back without noticably altering colors, so it's definitely possible.
++ chris

[user_deleted]

I have the same problem: in fact I send a clip from final cut to shake from the timeline and when I render back the clip it appears different.(shift color). To be noticed is that the settings (codec, frame rate etc..)are already set by the software to match the final cut's timeline.
Moreover I notice the same problem when I send a clip to motion from the timeline.
I work generally in DV and dvcpro hd
I hope that someone can help be.
bye bye

Tommaso