Dear ElectronicOutlaw, I'm calling you out, punk! I have read EVERY SINGLE ONE of your posts, and I have yet to see anything that is meaningful or helpful. in fact, everything you've EVER posted has been just plain mean or rude. I think that all of us are DYING to see your stuff. It's obviously the work of a higher being. Why is it that you've never posted anything that you have created? Are you afraid? Here's your chance, big man. If you don't post anything, then we'll all know that you're a coward! Don't worry. If it's good, then we'll all suck it up and give you the praise that you deserve.
Yes interesting... but you know sometimes the best critique comes from the least talented persons. Thets because they are so used to failure thet they will recognize it anywhere, no pun intended
I think he said he only does 2D work... lets hope he's not like a powerpoint presentation wizard working at kinkos "computer services" or somthing- hahaahahah
well i see he's a wizard at 1D critique in slamming everything that he sees. not that hes ALWAYS wrong, but i think his ego WAY outreaches his ability to actually give any kind of usefull feed back. i mean if i was that insecure about my own owrk i might lash out in aggression as well. so lets all take E.O.'s feelings into account and realize that hes a bitter victim of modern society. although we would all LOVE to be proved wrong and see some killer work.
Outlaws post to my "Oh Crud another WIP Head" was actually spot on ......( not that I am defending anyone here) the head does look like a drunk in a wind tunnel !!
But yes I too would like to see some of Outlaws work ( Artistic curiosity you know ! ) ..........heck I am still using a white cane when it come to 3D work and appreciate any advice from all you industry hardened professional
But I still approach the advice as I would when shopping for food , not all of its good for you and if I don't like it I ain't gonna buy it
Hahah. I for one have gone through all of EO's posts already, and I find his feedback to be quite good. I personally like the guy, but I can understand why some people might get choked at his feedback. He doesn't sugarcoat anything. If its good, he will SAY its good. (And he has done so... look hard enough.)
This is an industry where most people are too polite to offer any strong feedback. The only critique I ever take into account are the ones that really rip into my work. The design sucks? Is it cliche? Let me know. I wont nessesarily agree with all of your suggestions, but I will change what I see fit.
I think it good that he doesnt stoop to lame ass flame war in the forums... MOST of the time. The fact that he hasn't responded to this post shows that he doesnt feel the need to jump into an arguement for the sake of argueing. I hope he DOESNT respond to this one, and when he does decide to get feedback he does the alter-ego Steven King thing and posts under a different name. This would not be a cowards way out, but rather a method to get good HONEST feedback from his peers instead of whining from anyone who has hurt feelings.
Elect Out is just out on a personal mission. He is out to show himself and others that ONE - he is tallented and if you dont respect that you and your work is pure crap - and TWO - promote the philosophy that one should fixate on their weeknesses and not promote their strengths. This is obvious in all of his posts - good or bad. Notice I did not say helpfull or not. He is truly never insightfull in his idea of help therefore not uniquly helpfull. Granted if you do what he regects - praise his opinion in light of his strike on praising most anything - he will reach a little for what good that does.
I have had many private conversations with him continuously beating in the idea of honesty foremost but to critique in its true sense - by looking at what works AND what does not. After about my 4th corrispondence he replied:
"Once you bring up a valid point...someting other than, "join the crowd", then I wil be happy to discuss it."
Apperently looking at what works is wrong in his opinion.
So if you are looking for what to fix reflect on his bantering with hope it is more than pure selfserving messages such as his trademark "i dont like it"
If you are looking for help on working with your strengths to grow as an artist and not just pollish your edges then look elsewhere.
I have not read all of his posts, but his post on my Sprint Car was right on. I agreed with what he had to say. Sometimes, there are just not a lot of people critqueing work out there. With how many thousands of registered user that are on this board, compared to how many posts each of these threads get. It seems that we should all just be glad that people even respond. I can understand if his crits aren't always welcome, but they can be ignored if you so choose.
