Extrude A Closed Curve And Cap The Ends

[mnemonicimage]

I am trying to do a straight ectrusion of a closed curve and have it place caps on the ends. I have used bevel plus without bevels on start and ends but you have to have at least 2 divisions in the depth or it will not cap.

Is there a more obvious way to extrude closed curves that make a capped object? Like the outlines of wall floorplans that extrude straight up and cap both ends. Lof doesn't cap as far as I can tell.

[joojaa]

yes make planar using polys and then use poly extrude!

[mnemonicimage]

Great that works on straight lines if I use General and set the U & V to 1 in Per #Span. But when I do it on curved lines it makes a grid of faces on the planar and I am looking for just one face to extrude up. Any suggestions?

I am finding that bevel plus with one segment and no bevels gives me the open surfaces, then I do Polygons - fill holes. Closest thing I can find to just extruding a curve and capping it like in Max's one step extrude modifier.

[joojaa]

to be honest my bevel plus does this in one step!?! GRantted it has a bug so it does not work if you only have one span!

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I am finding that bevel plus with one segment and no bevels gives me the open surfaces, then I do Polygons - fill holes. Closest thing I can find to just extruding a curve and capping it like in Max's one step extrude modifier.

Well you msut understand that maxs one step extrude modifer is oactualy a 2 maya step process. In general maya has much smaller operations than max giving much more controll.

YOu must alos remebr that in max you allmost allways end u p with polygons and in maya you usualy end up with nurbs. Max is actualy worse in this regard.

But bear in maind maya can easily concatenate functors so the user THINKS its one function.

For xample take the smooth proxy thats 7-12 different steps bunbdled nto one and most users doent know tghe difference fro one step.

Anyway extrude can do curved lines.

[joojaa]

oh just to point out Even the simplest things in maya menus that you thinkof as one step usualy are 2-3 for example the standard extrude, in polygon mode is 3 operations. tough you srely thinkofit as one!

See macx i like a old family sedan it hets you there. And mayas a jetplane and it needs mechanics to do 100 hour chekups etc. But man does it get you there FAST whan ist up and running, iman 3 hours coast to coast fast, gee how long does it take the sedan. Oh well n seriously mayas not geared for the trivial its geared for the HARD. And offcourse theres a recongnition in mayas design that most studios spend a MUCH loonger times animating than actualy modelling.

[fritha]

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oh just to point out Even the simplest things in maya menus that you thinkof as one step usualy are 2-3 for example the standard extrude, in polygon mode is 3 operations. tough you srely thinkofit as one!
See macx i like a old family sedan it hets you there. And mayas a jetplane and it needs mechanics to do 100 hour chekups etc. But man does it get you there FAST whan ist up and running, iman 3 hours coast to coast fast, gee how long does it take the sedan. Oh well n seriously mayas not geared for the trivial its geared for the HARD. And offcourse theres a recongnition in mayas design that most studios spend a MUCH loonger times animating than actualy modelling.

Not true on all accounts. Maya can be as fast as you want it to be, just as Max can. Saying that Maya is eqivalent to a jetplane needing mechanics and 100 hour checkups is a complete misrepresentation of the software and it's abilities. You are probably referring to your speed (or lack of) within Maya. Maya is as hard as is your ability to learn it. Some people can't learn Maya as fast as Max, or vice versa. As for "recognition" of Maya and MOST studios spending "looonger" times animating than modelling shows ignorance in the matter. Also, by you saying they spend more time animating than modelling goes against your assessment of how long it takes to model something (and the whole jetplane analogy).

Reevaluate your statements.

[joojaa]

I dont need to im quite aware what i mean. Mayas fast allright, base mayas jsut something thats often not geared to the evarage beginner to use than max is, because mayas designed for thsoe who can design good pipelines. And can make their tools maytch what they do! if not then mayas nothing SUPER , except on the animation side. NOw ehen you have this in place mayas much better then max untill then its not!

I dont think you understand how long it taktkes to do good animation, on complex rig. Acharacter takes in capable hands about a week to complete and 1 week to rig. After that it takes about 1 week every 2-8 minutes of finished by hand animation on thet one char (or 10-45 if its sloppy b quality tv show anim on tight deadlines). And thats for a experriendced animator. However if you have a motion capture rig you can be doing it much faster. But thisis why it takes months on end to animate bigger movies.

Truth is allmost all bigger productions spend much more time animating than modelling! Just take any longer tv show they dont spend modelling time allmost at all they spend most of the time just doing animation plain and simple. However rigging takes alot of time for theese studoios aswell.

MOvies spend alot of time on everything possible offourse, and well commercial makers tryly spend more time modelling than anything else true.

And yes i know exactly what mayas capable of. I spend allmost all my time in making tools fasdster for whatever the animator wishes. Ansd in that maya is much better then max is.

But lets lets not make this a pissing contest because here i win by default

[mnemonicimage]

Who gives a rat's a-- !

I just wante to see if Maya could simply extrude a line and I discovered Bevel Plus has a bug if you only have one segment. Bevel Plus does what I am looking for and hopefully this bug will be finally picked up by Autodesk now.

Thanks for the info on extruding NOT on your pissing contest. We're on the same team now if you haven't been aware for the past 6 months.

[joojaa]

Yup its by the way doable for you! But yes bevel plus is having some serious problems especialy on maya 7.01.

[joojaa]

try selecting the curves and execute something like this! (sorry one loop at a time for now!)

{
$tmp=bevelPlus -po 1 -cap 4 -os 2 -ns 1;
$tmp2=listRelatives -shapes $tmp[0];
select ($tmp[0]+".f["+(getAttr -s ($tmp2[0]+".fc")-2)+"]");
polyChipOff -ch 1 -kft 1 -dup 0;
$test=polySeparate -ch 1 $tmp[0];
delete $test[0];
}

shoudl meake your life a tad easier. however doing extrude and then extractthe capped face is even more fficient polycountwise.

PS if polycount is an issue you mey want to use -pcs 1 -uch 1 -cht 0.005 as tesselation parametters of the bevel plus adjust 0.005 to suit your needs