hi, i just bought the g-force card with ddr ram and i must say the card really impressed me , it
actually is you REALLY want to you can enable the features that were left disabled in the g-force (aal issues...)..
You have to perform a registry hack in NT... (search around for it..I recommend dogpile.com)..
then you'll have to install the quadro drivers...
But bear in mind no one know what nvidia did exactly to disable the features you might take a pounding (from a performance point of view) for it..
I recommend that you sell you g-force and buy an elsa gloria II (you don't even have to buy a DDR, since even the "normal version" mops the floor with most highend cards as the newest wildcat etc... even a hp visualize fx6 is only around twice as fast as the quadro...).
that really should say it all shouldn't it?...
by the way you really need more then 32 mb ram on card to get a great performance, else the crad will leech on you system memory through the AGP port and you'll see performance dropping like a plane without wings..
the quadro has 64mb...not truly awesome...but adequate...
-klaus
you guys are talking about the g-force and elsa gloria II, and i am sure they are very good graphic cards... but how does the E&S Lightning 1200 stands next to the others ?
How do the g-force and elsa gloria II handel high resolution such as 1280*1024 ?
see the review on www.anadtech.com ...
you are probably talking about www.anandtech.com because there ain t a www.anadtech.com
Anyway i would like a real opinion on the E&S Lightning.
thanx anyway
the E&S lightning does
Has anyone here used a Gloria II with image planes...? I've heard that they slow down to a crawl with them...
tony
image planes wont do anything to it,
all it is is a texture map on a plane.
-Tad
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-Tad
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"I've heard that they slow down to a crawl with them..."
Just optomise the image B 4 placing it as an image plane.
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Hi,
Image planes might not be anything different to the hardware, but then it is a driver matter.
I've tried image planes in Maya 2.5.1 with a lot of hardware, GVX1, SGI320, Wildcat 4000 and Gloria II included.
So far it's the Wildcat that has proven itself to maintain a productive performance level in this situation.
A geforce 32MB is a great performer, and if the price is considered, it's a steal. However, the 32MB on the gaming card is not enough for serious work in high resolutions (>1280*1024) when a lot of textures are used. On the two machines that I've tested a gaming Geforce on, it suffered from slowdowns. The Gloria II, on the other hand, was incredible even at the highest resolutions on a 24" monitor.
I would like to stress the importance of a good, solid set of drivers. It's easy to be blinded by benchmarks that show off Infinite Reality level graphics performance, but when it comes down to productive work, the fillrate performance isn't really a big deal in 3D modeling.
Maybe to sum things up a bit, here's how I view the performance of different cards. I've mostly used Maya in testing, but also Studio and Microstation (although very little).
Elsa Erazor X SDR (32MB Geforce) - A steal for the price, but not a solid performer in all situation because of the low amount of memory and still some driver quirks. The signal quality from the card isn't spotless, the screen becomes slightly blurry when the resolution is at 1280*1024.
Elsa Gloria II SDR (64MB Quadro) - A very, very good card, good performer in all resolutions, but the drivers are still unreliable (weird manipulator colors and slow overlay performance, for instance).
SGI320 - I believe I tested with the latest drivers. The SGI is not a top-notch performer when compared to the other cards, and to my knowledge the Cobalt chip doesn't accelerate lighting in hardware. Some very minor coloring artifacts were present in Maya particles.
GVX1 - Although most people choose the geforce over a gvx1 nowadays, I would recommend the gvx1 for the simple reason that it's proven to be reliable.
E&S Lightning 1200 - Blurry picture at higher resolutions, bad polygon artifacts, and nothing special when it comes to speed. I wasn't impressed.
Wildcat 4000 - Although the hardware numbers of the modern cards might give the impression that this card is outdated, this is far from the truth. It is a stable, very fast performer, on par with the Gloria II in almost every aspect. Excellent signal quality. The only negative aspect I can think of is the framebuffer memory, which is limited to 16MB. This makes 1280*1024 the highest resolution available in 4:3, and ~1400*900 (I don't remember the exact number right now) the highest widescreen resolution.
Here's the present situation as I see it so far. Things look interesting in the coming months. I'm very curious to see the upcoming Wildcat 4110, the GVX210 and the NV15. Not only from the hardware point of view, but also from the driver aspect.
Sorry for the long post, but I hope some might find this helpful.
~ Frand
I couldnt yet find the tweaks mentioned in the 2nd post. Anyone could give me a hint?
Cut
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