geForce gts sluggish

[archimedes7]

setup: win2k service pack 2
geForce2 gts latest drivers

while manipulating the viewports [track/tumble/zoom] in maya4 things will slow to a crawl. If you jump to a different viewport and jump back it sometimes fixes the problem temporarily...any suggestions?

ps the geForce2mx-400 gave me similar problems

[blk]

In reply to:
setup: win2k service pack 2
geForce2 gts latest drivers

while manipulating the viewports [track/tumble/zoom] in maya4 things will slow to a crawl. If you jump to a different viewport and jump back it sometimes fixes the problem temporarily...any suggestions?

ps the geForce2mx-400 gave me similar problems

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try using the softquadro patch and the 12.41 drivers
just cause drivers are newer doesnt always make them better
also look on here for the enabling back buffer reg edit

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[tzaunie]

I'm curious why you suggest the 12.41's over the 12.90's, which I "thought" were the preferred drivers when using the softquadro patch.

Thanks for any further information on this,

Larry

[blk]

i find the 12.41's have a cleaner image
specially with text and they are sharper ive found the drivers after the 12.41's all seem very blurry to me

i just find the image with the 12.41s to be sharper and cleaner and maya on my machine likes them better

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[skelter]

I don't know about the image quality but the 12.90's are faster...

In Gold They Trust.

[kiwi]

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I don't know about the image quality but the 12.90's are faster...In Gold They Trust.

I don't beleive that driver updates are responsible for the visual quality (like the display of text) that you get in your viewport. I've just never heard of -nor seen that to be the case.

Performance, features and stability issues are all closely related to which drivers one is running, however.....

kiwi

[blk]

and so is 2D image quality

the drivers have a big factor on your 2D image quality too and how sharp the image is
if 1 driver gives you a sharper image your text will be sharper

I have found the 12.41s to give the best 2d quality of any of the drivers
and since i also do alot of work in photoshop and painter i like having good 2d performance as well as good 3d performance

ive also found that on my machine maya likes the 12.41s patched with the softquadro best
it seems to run alot smoother for me with them and again the image quality is just much much better

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[kiwi]

oh yea?

well.

my daddy can beat up your daddy!

kiwi

[blk]

yeah well my grandfather could whoop your grandfathers as*
hehehehehehe

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[blk]

just wanted to add the last post was a joke in case people didnt realise it

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[wopr]

yes, i've had the same problems.....i've got a visionTek 32 mb geforceGTS, running windowsXP and the newest detonatorXP drivers. this also hapend to me under windows2000 and windowsNT. usually, i'll work with the viewport maximized, without problems, using the hotbox to switch cameras. But, if I happen to hit the spacebar, the program slows to a crawl, like it's in software OpenGL. weird. This has happend to me on other systems using the geFoece2 also. can't figure out why, is it just the card? or all geForce2 chips?

[adreamtraveler]

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yes, i've had the same problems.....i've got a visionTek 32 mb geforceGTS, running windowsXP and the newest detonatorXP drivers. this also hapend to me under windows2000 and windowsNT. usually, i'll work with the viewport maximized, without problems, using the hotbox to switch cameras. But, if I happen to hit the spacebar, the program slows to a crawl, like it's in software OpenGL. weird. This has happend to me on other systems using the geFoece2 also. can't figure out why, is it just the card? or all geForce2 chips?

No, it

[campbell]

I only wish.
For some inexplicable reason i cant enable overlays after a soft patch ... well i can enable them, but i get this terrible pixel miss-alignment across the centre of my view ports. I dled the latest patcher with Rivatuner, and found that this time Maya could not completely initialise (it crashes, and cant even write out a log) if overlays are enabled - w/o enabling things are fine. Overlays arent such a req w Maya4, but somethings still beneft from them ... why do i have this problem? Any clues?

Leadtek Winfast GeForce2 GTS 64, Via 694x, Win2k sp2, latest 4in1s, 12.xx dets (and earlier).

Cheers,
C.

[leach]

the crashing problem could be due to the protection that has been put into the detonator drivers after version 12.40. it cuases an infinite loop to be executed as soon as an oipengl app opens. you can get around this buy using the soft quadro anti protection patch script that comes with the newest riva tuner

hope this helps

leach

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I only wish.
For some inexplicable reason i cant enable overlays after a soft patch ... well i can enable them, but i get this terrible pixel miss-alignment across the centre of my view ports. I dled the latest patcher with Rivatuner, and found that this time Maya could not completely initialise (it crashes, and cant even write out a log) if overlays are enabled - w/o enabling things are fine. Overlays arent such a req w Maya4, but somethings still beneft from them ... why do i have this problem? Any clues?

Leadtek Winfast GeForce2 GTS 64, Via 694x, Win2k sp2, latest 4in1s, 12.xx dets (and earlier).

Cheers,
C.

[adreamtraveler]

Ok, try out the new Detonator XP drivers (21.85 will work best, 21.80 will work as well). Now apply the normal softquadro-patch and then the softquadro-antiprotection patch. Also edit your nv4_disp.inf file so that the lines starting like this: %NVidia.Nv4% = nv4, PCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0020
are changed to
%NVidia.Nv4% = nv4_WSApps, PCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0020

Now uninstall your old drivers and restart your system. After that install the new drivers, set your new resolution and choose Maya from the application tab. After that run the Enable_Back_Buffer.reg or just change the registry by hand: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetServicesnv4Device0]
"OGL_EnableSingleBackDepthBuffer"=hex:01,00,00,00

Now I would recommend to restart the computer again.

Now Maya should run really fine, if not, there is mostlikely a problem with your hardware.

Michael

[blk]

well with the new Rivatuner i have patched the 21 80 drivers and running maya with them they seem allright
again i think the 12 40s i think those were th eones i was using were crisper but with this one the color picker comes right up in the old drivers it took it like 3 or 4 seconds to pop up not with these (same with other things like the color picker)
so i may stick with these
i eneabled back buffer with a reg edit but i havent set the maya application thin in riva tuner need to do that i forgot to

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[campbell]

Thanx for the suggestions people, apreciated.
I hadnt applied that antiprotection patch as notes that came with it suggested it was for drivers post 14.40, a typo of sorts i guess.

I patched up 21.85s, edit disp for presets, installed buffer reg entry, etc. Usual methodology (+ antiprotectn). With the Maya preset, overlays enabled, there was an apparent global 'sluggishness', from tumbling an empty scene to artisan/paint, noticibly greater shadowing/ghosting during tracking, and my old friend Miss-align still present. You can almost see an apprent refresh rate of the overlay planes whilst watching the brush stamp. Big delays on whole viewport refreshes when swapping from full to multiple viewports (no surprise there).

On the otherhand, toggle overlays off and we're back in action, with well acceptable responsiveness on CP densities ~55^2 nurbs, and ~80^2 pols (with other indep scene geom present). Port swapping is fine, in general things are delightful. So, ill stick with the rest of the quadro features, ponder why my card has this problem, and buy a new card when my project's ramp up their requirements.

Cheers,
C.

[adreamtraveler]

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Thanx for the suggestions people, apreciated.
I hadnt applied that antiprotection patch as notes that came with it suggested it was for drivers post 14.40, a typo of sorts i guess.

I patched up 21.85s, edit disp for presets, installed buffer reg entry, etc. Usual methodology (+ antiprotectn). With the Maya preset, overlays enabled, there was an apparent global 'sluggishness', from tumbling an empty scene to artisan/paint, noticibly greater shadowing/ghosting during tracking, and my old friend Miss-align still present. You can almost see an apprent refresh rate of the overlay planes whilst watching the brush stamp. Big delays on whole viewport refreshes when swapping from full to multiple viewports (no surprise there).

On the otherhand, toggle overlays off and we're back in action, with well acceptable responsiveness on CP densities ~55^2 nurbs, and ~80^2 pols (with other indep scene geom present). Port swapping is fine, in general things are delightful. So, ill stick with the rest of the quadro features, ponder why my card has this problem, and buy a new card when my project's ramp up their requirements.

Cheers,
C.

Actually this sounds a lot like if the registry has some unwanted entries. Maybe you should try it on another Windows-Installation before you get another card. I had this problem when antialiasing was turned on. Best thing would be, to clean the registry by hand before installing a new driver.

Michael

[campbell]

You may well be right, considering that if i set 2x, 4x aliasing levels manually (w generic dets) i get some rather interesting ..um...kalidoscope splays of the grid plane, aliasing awry. Its almost reinstall time anyway, so i might take it from dot.

Cheers again,
C.

[tzaunie]

In reply to: After that run the Enable_Back_Buffer.reg or just change the registry by hand: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetServicesnv4Device0]
"OGL_EnableSingleBackDepthBuffer"=hex:01,00,00,00

Once you install the Softquadro patched drivers, can't you simply choose "Use unified back/depth buffer" from the display properties? This item showed up once I installed the patched drivers -- I didn't think the extra reg patch was needed at this point.

Also, if you choose "maya" from the application tab (after enabling this ability), doesn't this automatically enable the back/depth buffer as well?

Thanks,

Larry