Maya 4.0 and Windows XP Beta 2 Build 2462

[berdal84]

Hi

I'm running Windows XP Beta Build 2462 (because it's for my job...I'm testing it for my IT guys at work as a favor to them - they don't have the time) and I just installed Maya 4.0. Now, I know there is no support for XP from A|W, and I'm not expecting any. Maya 4 runs fine, boots up etc...only it's about as slow as a pig stuck in a bog. We're talking about 5 minutes to get up a window, and 10 second lag times for any response in the program to any input whatsoever, from switching views to getting a menu up.

I'm currently running a 3D Prophet 32MB MX II AGP card with the latest NVIDIA driver (as suggested by Guillemot) so that it is fully compatible with XP, because Guillemot hasn't written an XP driver yet for my card. BEFORE I updated the driver, Maya and Nendo wouldn't boot up, giving me OpenGL errors. That means that the driver did fix the OpenGL problem. Nendo works fine and runs really smoothly. Maya, well, as I said...is really really really really slow.

So I figure this is probably a driver problem. Has anyone got any ideas?

Thanks,

Nat.

[adreamtraveler]

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Hi

I'm running Windows XP Beta Build 2462 (because it's for my job...I'm testing it for my IT guys at work as a favor to them - they don't have the time) and I just installed Maya 4.0. Now, I know there is no support for XP from A|W, and I'm not expecting any. Maya 4 runs fine, boots up etc...only it's about as slow as a pig stuck in a bog. We're talking about 5 minutes to get up a window, and 10 second lag times for any response in the program to any input whatsoever, from switching views to getting a menu up.

I'm currently running a 3D Prophet 32MB MX II AGP card with the latest NVIDIA driver (as suggested by Guillemot) so that it is fully compatible with XP, because Guillemot hasn't written an XP driver yet for my card. BEFORE I updated the driver, Maya and Nendo wouldn't boot up, giving me OpenGL errors. That means that the driver did fix the OpenGL problem. Nendo works fine and runs really smoothly. Maya, well, as I said...is really really really really slow.

So I figure this is probably a driver problem. Has anyone got any ideas?

Thanks,

Nat.

I think it is an OS-Problem. I remember when switching from Windows NT 3.5 to 4.0 Softimage would no longer run. Also when switching from NT 4 to Windows 2000 Maya wouldn

[blk]

well i doubt its a matter of using XP cause others have poste don this board that they used XP and maya runs fine for them

also theres no reason fo rit to be XP as XP is basically windows 2k with a new interface
XP is built on the 2k core
2k was something completely new it wasnt built on the NT4 core thats why maya 2.0 had some issues going to 2k different core
but with XP its basically the exact same core

to me it sounds like it could be driver related
ive seen drivers make a big difference in the speed in maya
a few questions though first
what kind of system are running processor, ram, mobo
XP has higher requirments than 2k
on the same hardware XP will be slower than 2k i think this is from it still being in beta and the code still being somewhat bloated

[jtk77]

wahts your goal to test this out ?
I would go back to the IT guys and say , hey it works great with nendo , not great with maya , thanks for the experement time. Give me back an approved system.

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[berdal84]

I'm running a PIII 600Mhz with 320 megs RAM, and an AGP Hercules 3D Prophet II MX with 32 megs RAM.

The system actually runs fast. I was quite surprised. Even faster than Win2K Pro, which was what I was running previously. RAM isn't the issue, or the speed of the computer either...honestly everything else runs really nice and smoothly. I disabled some of the more intensive graphic-GUI "features" of XP and it really is very nice. When I didn't update my driver, originally, Nendo and Maya just wouldn't open, giving me OpenGL errors. When I updated, Nendo works fine and smoothly - and quickly. But Maya just...lags. I think it is a driver issue, yeah. I'll have to check.

The only problem is that after I installed XP, I read in the readme file that you can't uninstall it. So either I upgrade to full XP and wait until then to try Maya once more (sighs) or I format C and reinstall Win2K. Either way, it's a pain in the ass since I need to get some work done....

If I could just uninstall for now, I would...but it doesn't allow you, apparently. I'm kinda ticked off at my IT guys because they skipped that warning in the speech they gave to me about it when they wanted me to test it...but there literally isn't anything I can do about it at the moment, so I don't think I want to fume over something I can do nothing about.

[mnhan32]

I was able to run Maya 4.0 and XP RC1 just fine. No Maya problems but I noticed that XP was slow for my macine compared to Win2k. Espically for using 2 processors effectively.

Make sure you have the XP drivers for your hardware (all pretty much in beta right now) that will make a difference.

[jtk77]

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format C and reinstall Win2K

Yes , sounds like a plan. One thing MS likes is that once you upgrade you can;t downgrade .

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[ragtag]

As a note on WinXP....read this:

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20010802.html

It's kinda interesting....

Ragnar

[joojaa]

Yes we all know M$ plays dirty... In the long run this will be realy bad for the industry as a whole.

[berdal84]

Okay well,

I figured maybe it was the graphics card as well. So I took the excuse to go out and buy myself a 3D Prophet 4500 64MB yesterday. But that driver works even less than my other card. Weird...I figured that since it's newer, etc....won't even use the driver when I load up XP. It safemodes to VGA, and I even downloaded the latest one from their site.

Ah well.

I think I will get RC1 today. If not, I'll just go back to Win2K.

Heck, at least it gave me the excuse to buy a new graphic card.

Thanks for the help et al. I do appreciate it.

[joojaa]

The XP drivers take a while to marture... Even the win 2k drivers where not marture enough untill 6 months after its realease. So expect maya to be fully functional on XP in a year or so!