Maya 7.0 Requiremenets And Suse 9.3

[dimo]

I've been trying to get a Maya 7.0 eval working on a Suse 9.3 machine. The problem is Maya crashes on startup, particularily when the menu's are being drawn (I'll post gdb output at the end here).

My first question is the Maya 7.0 requirement of Xfree86 4.3.99.902-43.28 on Suse 9.3. I've been speaking with people on the Suse 9.3 mailing list, as well as doing a lot of research independently. I haven't found a way to use Xfree86 instead of X.org in Suse 9.3. How did the Maya testers at Alias put together this machine?

Secondly as I stated earlier Maya is crashing on startup. I've done some testing on different versions of Maya, different versions of the ATI video driver and different versions of Suse 9.x running X.org. The ATI driver is fine and is giving the correct output when fglrxinfo is run and 3d acceleration is working fine.

Here's the gdb output plus the hardware I'm using, any help on this would be great.

GDB output from running maya -d gdb

Starting program: /usr/aw/maya7.0/bin/maya.bin
[Thread debugging using libthread\_db enabled]
[New Thread 1179762464 (LWP 6856)]
[New Thread 1183378352 (LWP 6859)]
MAYA_DEBUG_NO_SIGNAL_HANDLERS is set.

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 1179762464 (LWP 6856)]
0x4439a314 in GLFunctionTable::populate () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/libHWGL.so
(gdb) bt
#0 0x4439a314 in GLFunctionTable::populate () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/libHWGL.so
#1 0x443ab62f in GLStartupContext::GLStartupContext () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/libHWGL.so
#2 0x4441a6d6 in OGLRenderBackEnd::createResourceContext () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/libHWRender.so
#3 0x429e41c1 in T3dView::updateViewingParameters () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/libDataModel.so
#4 0x429c660e in TidleRefreshCmd::refresh () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/libDataModel.so
#5 0x429c11cc in TtoolRefresh::refreshFast () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/libDataModel.so
#6 0x429e7a68 in T3dView::doUpdate () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/libDataModel.so
#7 0x4232d0db in Tresponder::handleEvent () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/libExtensionLayer.so
#8 0x42d5f061 in T3dPort::exposeXtCB () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/lib3dGraphics.so
#9 0x42d5ece5 in T3dPort::exposeXtCBCB () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/lib3dGraphics.so
#10 0x457f3806 in XtCallCallbackList () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6
#11 0x42d649da in TdragEvent::~TdragEvent () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/lib3dGraphics.so
#12 0x458022ae in XtAddExposureToRegion () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6
#13 0x458029ad in XtDispatchEventToWidget () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6
#14 0x45802e14 in XtDispatchEventToWidget () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6
#15 0x45801e5f in XtDispatchEvent () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6
#16 0x42329d33 in TeventHandler::analyzeEvent () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/libExtensionLayer.so
#17 0x42329c8f in TeventHandler::processXEvent () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/libExtensionLayer.so
#18 0x423299d2 in TunixEventHandler::handleEvents () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/libExtensionLayer.so
#19 0x42323119 in TGUIapplication::run () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/libExtensionLayer.so
#20 0x4231f78b in Tapplication::start () from /usr/aw/maya7.0/lib/libExtensionLayer.so
#21 0x0805266d in appmain ()
#22 0x0806a5cb in main ()

Hardware List
IBM Intellistation M pro 6230
ATI Fire GL X1 (fglrx 8.14.13)

[user_deleted]

Alias needs to update the info for SUSE Linux 9.3 on their Qualification Chart for Maya 7.0. XOrg, not XFree has been used since SUSE Linux 9.2. XOrg that comes with SUSE Linux 9.3 is version 6.8.2-30.
Anyway I'll post one of my system specs below to assist you.

Processor: Intel P4 3.2 GHz w/HT enabled (32-bit)
Mobo: Abit IC7-G
GPU: MSI NX6600GT 256 MB DDR3 RAM (AGP)
NVIDIA Driver: 76.67
HDD: x2 WDC 120 GB 7200 RPM w/8 mb cache
PSU: 520 watt
RAM: PC3200 DDR400 (1536 mb)
OS: Novell SUSE Linux 9.3 (32-bit)
Kernel: 2.6.11.4-21.8-smp
Desktop: KDE 3.4.2
glibc: 2.3.4-23.4
GCC: 3.3.5-5
OpenMotif: 2.2.3-11
libstdc++: 3.3.5-5
Default browser: Firefox 1.0.6
Maya: 7.0 Ultd

[dimo]

Yes, I have it working with a simple Nvidia card. However our production floor video cards are ATI FireGL X1's, the error does appear to eminate from the GL libraries so I'm hoping the new ATI drive 8.16.20 will fix this.

I'll hopefully get to try it out this afternoon crosses fingers

[user_deleted]

QUOTE(oddmyth @ 08/22/05, 07:14 AM)
Yes, I have it working with a simple Nvidia card.  However our production floor video cards are ATI FireGL X1's, the error does appear to eminate from the GL libraries so I'm hoping the new ATI drive 8.16.20 will fix this.

I'll hopefully get to try it out this afternoon crosses fingers
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The studio you work at should contact ATI and have them troubleshoot the issue. ATI's drivers have gotten better but sadly ATI doesn't seem to focus their driver developement anywhere near the same for Linux and OSX as they do with Windows.

[dimo]

QUOTE(Dark_Knight @ 08/22/05, 04:44 PM)
The studio you work at should contact ATI and have them troubleshoot the issue. ATI's drivers have gotten better but sadly ATI doesn't seem to focus their driver developement anywhere near the same for Linux and OSX as they do with Windows.
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I agree with you 100%, ATI hasn't been very helpful to us in this aspect. The 8.16.20 driver is out on their website, however I've tried installing it three different ways (the .run package, making a distribution specific RPM and going through the RPM by hand), none of this has resulted in getting the correct info back from fglrxinfo or having any 3d perf at all .. now I guess I just have to wait til the packagers at Suse get ahold of it and stick something that will give me 3d perf on their FTP ..

Good thing this Maya eval is a month long!

[deke-kincaid]

I just say stay away from Ati if your doing linux. Every driver version just seems to cause more problems then it fixes. Nvidia has their shit together on linux.

[macgio-gio]

Hi there I had the same problem whith my ati card after some trials I figured it out just use the ATI driver installer that you can get from the ATI web site is simple to install, then use the flgrxconfig command.

It worked for me on my laptop and on an workstation, hope it works for you too.
to check if the card is correctly installed use the fglrxinfo on the shell, if it displays the model name of your card it should be ok.

I agree that nvidia cards is the way to go if you want to use 3d apps on linux its much more stable.

cheers

[cheeseman]

I have fully working 9600xt on suse 10.0

(or not completly selection marquee is mising and also there is couple of more driver issues in MAYA)

I tried to install newest ati drivers manually, but I didn't succeed with it, or yea in a way I did I got 3d to work, games worked well and those little benchmark apps *gears worked well, butt when i started maya it crashed on a start and gave me signall 11 error. (it worked without acceleration/openGL.)

then I just removed everything, made posix thingies modified fstab and mounted it again. as is written in the intallation manual. and then I just started ati's graphical installer. after that I ran fglrxconfig, Reboot and everything was working!

[bendingiscool]

my configuration is similar to Dark Knights (CPU lower = 2.4GHz) and also, i have installed nvidia drivers on Suse 9.3 which runs xorg not xfree86 and i have installed maya rpm package with yast.

but i have little problems:
- once when i clicked for opening layout "Persp/Outliner" maya crashed
- when in persp view shade was on (level 5), and when i pressed space maya crashed
this is not happening always... but if u haven't saved your work it makes you go wicked

also I want to say, I'm proud of my SuSe, and it is best distro i have tryed (suse 9.3 pro | i'm not very pleased with suse 10). With almost a month full time working on Suse i hope i will get used not to use () windows any more (accept on job).

[user_deleted]

QUOTE(MayaTitan @ 11/10/05, 04:03 AM)
my configuration is similar to Dark Knights (CPU lower = 2.4GHz) and also, i have installed nvidia drivers on Suse 9.3 which runs xorg not xfree86 and i have installed maya rpm package with yast.

but i have little problems:
- once when i clicked for opening layout "Persp/Outliner" maya crashed
- when in persp view shade was on (level 5), and when i pressed space maya crashed
this is not happening always... but if u haven't saved your work it makes you go wicked

also I want to say, I'm proud of my SuSe, and it is best distro i have tryed (suse 9.3 pro | i'm not very pleased with suse 10). With almost a month full time working on Suse i hope i will get used not to use () windows any more (accept on job).
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Set an environment variable MAYA_DEBUG_ENABLE_CRASH_REPORTING before running Maya, if Maya does crash you will get a stack trace. If not and its reproducible, then running under gdb will generally give you the stack trace "maya -d gdb" (with out quotes).

As for the comment regarding "xorg not xfree86" even though Alias was notified several months ago on their support forum that the Qualification Chart needs to be edited due to the error stating SUSE Linux 9.3 uses XFree86 nothing has been done about it. Maybe they should consider replacing who ever is in charge of that

Oh and my current configuration has been recently updated (see below). I'm holding off on upgrading to a dual core 64-bit system until I hear what cost Boxxtech will sell their soon to be released quad processor (dual core AMD) workstation. I figure if we're going to spend our money on something it should be worth every dollar. Though I'm sure this workstation won't be cheap.

OS: SUSE Linux 10.0 (32-bit)
Kernel: 2.6.13-15-smp
Desktop: KDE 3.4.3
glibc: 2.3.5-40
GCC: 4.0.2
OpenMotif: 2.2.3-13
libstdc++: 4.0.2

[cristian]

for CornFielD (or any1 to know the way)

can you explain how did you managed to make maya work with ati card?
i have exactly the same prob(maya works in mesa, but when i enable 3d driver in goes right until showing the UI an then closes with the same error " signall 11 error")

please detail (as much as it can be detailed) how did you do it, so i make sure i don't get lost in the proccess. ("posix thingies modified fstab and mounted it again" )

thank you

cristian

amilo1425
ati 9700 >128mb
centrino 1.8
1G ram

[cheeseman]

I just used atis installer to make install for me, I did it few times manually but it didnt work for me like that... I did something wrong I guess.

I didnt do any tricks and I (I am not linux savvy)

then you will propably see several viewport clitches when you are using it, but all of those magically got solved after I activated my TV-out.