Got some new images for crit. The background is being worked on by my partner for this project. About 50% done with the animation, felt like posting some stills. Feedback appreciated.
-P3
http://www.geocities.com/phaction3/Raven1.htmlhttp://www.geocities.com/phaction3/Raven1.html
http://www.geocities.com/phaction3/Raven2.htmlhttp://www.geocities.com/phaction3/Raven2.html
very nice... not only does the raven look good, but that angelina jolie popup was outstanding.
back to the birdy--> I think MAYBE, the beak is too wide.. but thats just eyeballing it, been a long time since I looked at a raven. The feathers look GREAT, the sheen off of them is near perfect. In motion, I bet it would fool some people, depending on the compositing job.
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dude whats wrong with you man... this is a board for students who are learning... you should give them help and support. what your doing is so lame... if your so good go to the prof board... but leave the students alone....
sad little boy.
anyway about your bird... i like it 
alot... very nice.. don't respont to those kind of lamers.. they suck..
i'd like to see a animation.
Greetz
I think he was being sarcastic.
But good job with the bird. Post a playblast or something.
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the raven looks terrific.
let's see the animation too.
Apology accepted. However it is fine to kid around with people you know but keep in mind that it was not clear in your posts and Yes sarcasm is hard to read without smiley faces. It is generally a really bad idea to insult everybody "who doesn't get it".
Sincerely
Your friendly Admin type person
I added a link on the second page which will take you to a playblast of the animation. I still need to do some minor tweaking and animate the camera moves. There will be a slow pull back throughout the entire scene. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
-P3
WOW!! Now this is out of this world! Class A work. Serious.
Well since you haven't quite finished, I'll try to be as picky as I can, you could add a couple of grams to the animation of the bird durring landing and take off if you see what I mean... (Though the landing is nearly perfect) I mean come on, admit he's been eating a bit too many of these tasty worms lately; his take off is too easy for a chubby guy like him.
The movements of the neck could be a bit more dry and sudden. Like just as he lands, howls, and moves his head to the right, that speed is perfect, but then the rotations are a bit too smooth IMO. All the rest is perfect apart for maybe the take off once again, like he doesn't push his weight back enough before taking off, and we should really get a "throwing himself in the air" kind of motion.
Maybe there could be a bit of a tiny pause as well between the picking and taking off, unless he sees another one of these worms in the distance, in which case you could add a couple of keys of him elongating his neck and looking at the distance before suddenly taking off to get it. But it's your choreography so really don't have to listen to this.
I adore it, especially that bit where he moves his head around kind of showing off his beauty. By all means keep us updated.
P.S
Ephasus I think I would have gotten your joke by now, just try it a bit more on a jockey tone next time. Sorry if I were a bit harsh on you earlier. I just don't really enjoy being called a moron, nor does anyone else.
Actually, the more I watch it, the more I realise it's all perfect, apart for the taking off, definitelly, but I'm sure that's whas you'r working on right now anyway. Cool stuff man, well done.
thanks Shydo. Yeah, I realized after watching it a few times that the take off is a bit off. Also the last bit of pecking needs to be tweaked some. That sort of thing happens when you've been animating for the last 2 days straight. I'm going to tweak it tonight, and hopefully have the finished one up soon. Thanks for all the comments and the emails. As far as how I got the wings to fold, I pretty much followed the tutorial for the dinosaur bird. I'm not sure if it's still up or not, if not let me know and I'll take you through it as best as I can.
-P3
Ok, apparantly I'm exceeding my data transfer rate at geocities is constantly over the limit because of the animation, so I moved the link to a different provider. If anyone knows any really good free web providers, let me know. Hopefully you won't be greeted with the error page anymore. the new link is
http://alshaheen.net/artists/phaction3/Raven.avihttp://alshaheen.net/artists/phaction3/Raven.avi
I also changed the link on the original page. Hope this works.
-P3
Hey, one great thing about this website is that it's a big living resource of how people get around doing things, personally when someone asks me "how did you do that" I'll take a pleasure spewing out all I know about that thing, links to tutorials I used "if any", even links to my research and references, peeps seem to genuinely appreciate. If you want to attract the techy guys post a playblast with all the deformers and the amazing list of stuff this bird must contain! Actually I'm really interested.
And what's for the take off, I would suggest you to take your nose out of your computer for a day, and get back down to the tweaking session, then you realise that this glitch was as obvious and the nose in the middle of the face. As you say after 2 days straight you don't notice them anymore.
There's a saying that goes "sometimes you
Nice renders ... but the animation needs some fine tuning. The bird appeared very stiff to me and lacked believable weight. More follow thru on the landing, lateral shifts of the body on the step/turn, and anticipation on the take off (already mentioned) would probably help.
I also noticed that unless the raven is 'squaking' it's tail if fixed and motionless. Birds use thier tails for balance when on the ground or perched on objects. If the body shifts one way the tail will move to counteract that action. When your bird bends over to peck at the fence post I expect it should fall down ... but it doesn't.
Additionally, it appears as though you have restraints on the joints set well but there are no deformers. When it turns it's head side to side or up and down the body remains a constant shape. In fact the body stays the same throughout the whole clip. It should flex and deform more.
I'd also speed up the head movements. They should be short quick bursts of energy. Pecking is like a manual typewriter hammer hitting a page ... quick hits. bam bam bam ... bam bam.
It's a very convincing looking raven in the render images. But hardly flawless on the animation. Keep at it and it'll be a stellar clip!
....and your a student???
hey great job.
somethings on the animation.
have the bird hop instead of step. they like to keep their feet together. make use of the tail more it looks dead. what about having the bird look motionless for a sec. That way you can improve and add secondary motion to the bird. The bird just seems to busy. Since when is a bird doing all of that running around. finally when he is taking off he need to look before he leeps. Have the bird leep and then pause with the wing motion then flap. I think that a short pause as the bird falls a short distance will help. The bird needs air pressure under the wings in order to fly so let the bird dip and then gain elevation and flap.
Of course this is my opinion so take as much or as little as needed. Great job so far. Keep going.
Spill