Setup Copy / Paste Keys

[ewerybody]

Hey Animation Guys!

I never had problems with this but now... I don't know how to setup the Copy Keys / Paste Keys Options so that I can simply do a copy/paste without any time or value offset. I know it worked once and now a colleague asked how to setup this and now I can't turn it how it was again.

I also figured out, that Ctrl-C / Ctrl-V sometimes does something else than the Apply Buttons in their respective Options Dialogs...

Now you still don't know what the heck I'm talking about, right? ok: The Cut-Paste surprisingly thingy works as expected:

I select a key, press Ctrl-X: the key is away
I press Ctrl-V at another time: the key is at the time cursor
So its obviously NOT the Paste Key-Options:

When I press Ctrl-C to copy a key
And then I deselect everything (so its like in the Cut-case)
I press Ctrl-V at another time: he pastes the whole curve somehow at the end or where I have the cursor but not only the keys I had selected. I can turn It however I want: It does only crap!!! It seems NEVER do the thing I see in the cut keys case... I'm very frustrated man...please help me! That can't be! It was all ok! All that years! And now I'm sitting in front of a pile of shit!

Is there any scripts? Any adwise? Flush the prefs?

[gwelch]

This topic was posted recently, someone wrote that there was an interface GUI programming mistake that makes any choices in the copy or paste dialoug box not work. When I called support, Alais suggested to delete all preference folders and files, and that worked for me. Another poster said that choosing to reset to default in the copy/paste dialoug box and then dont change any settings also works.

[ewerybody]

I tryed to reset the Copy Keys Settings. It didn't matter anymore. I didn't touch Paste Keys because it worked so well at the Cut Keys thingy ... but I'll give it a try on everything.

A Pref-Renaming and Creating default Prefs didn't work either.. In the fresh version I tryed reset Copy Keys Settings again and now he always copies the whole curve again! What he didn't do in the beginning!

OK I GOT IT!!!!

Fresh Prefs and then turning off connect at the Paste Keys Options does the Job!!!

darn .. now I just have to put this into my prefs.. I couldn't live without them..

OK I EVEN GOT THIS!!!

I saved prefs in the fresh vesion and moved every line in userPrefs.mel that was named copyKey.. or pasteKey... to my old prefs and now its like in the good ol times!!

Hey thanks a very lot man!!! I can smile again I can smile!! Yeeehhaa

[joojaa]

What gwelch is talking about applies to copy only:

Well its a pure gui problemf. except that the gui guves you 3 options whan there in all actuality is 4. NOw then the 4th option can be set trough mel no problem there but the GUI itself cant apparently set the 4th default option at all. BUT you actualy can do that, thing is the default setting is exactly the way you want it even yough the gui cant puta finger on it. So no GUI feedback for this.

so choosing graph editor -> edit -> copy | copy Keys Options -> Reset Settings

this is bevcause the most sane option is default but its also not settable trough the gui nasty aint it

Thing is dont go around suggesting people to delete prefs if they dont need to delete the prefs especialy on a mel forum is gong to drive people insane because the last thing ANY seasoned maya user ever wants to do is delete their prefs. its just something you do not ever do. IT takes me about 6 hours to set my preferences back the way they were if i truly deleted all of my prefs. And thats true to most HC users that use maya more then once a forthinght.

just resetting the settings of particular tool is usualy enough! its like deleting prefs but only for thet one item

Infact the only thing id ever refuse to do wjhatever happens is delete my prefs becasuse the prefs are all that i need of maya, if i delte them ist lke id go back 3 years in maya usage worktime and knowlege.

Now then reseting is easier than deleting the prefs dont you think! Especialy wna you dont nee dto go back and forthe band cop

[ewerybody]

exactly!

Thats why I also offered a way to integrate the settings over to your working prefs.
(actually I backup my prefs every 2 weeks by schedule )

Funny that sometimes people try to figure out if something works in a fresh Maya by deinstalling / reinstalling ... I mean ... they just don't know about the power of your prefs. renaming them and restart takes only a fraction of the time.

[joojaa]

Thing is usualy they reinstall then the problem persists and then they reinstall again

[gwelch]

True True, deleteing preferences is a last option and a real pain to restore. less drastic measures did not work, 1st I overwrote my preferences with other users prefernces without the problem, I also reset my copy to default settings (paste too), next I deleted all my preference files, but only when I deleted the preference files and their folders could I get correct copy paste actions. Strangely, this is the only option that worked for me and also what Alais support recommened.

[ewerybody]

We already restored it at another colleague here! :]

so get a fresh userPrefs.mel, seek for copyKey and pasteKeys and move the settings to the according settings in your working userPrefs.mel worked very well.

that alias truly suggested a pref delete is quite bitter

[joojaa]

QUOTE(gwelch @ 03/21/06, 07:48 PM) [snapback]231833[/snapback]
Strangely, this is the only option that worked for me and also what Alais support recommened.

Thets wierd deleting pres does not do anything different from reset settings for just that one dialog to me. Are you sure your realy restyettiung the right dialogs settings? I mean the difference is 0 and when i say 0 i mean 0.

Thing is tough it might be a comulative prefs problem so you may want to reset more than just the apparent copy vindow but still, i stand by may claim deleting and manualy editting prtefs is NOT neccesery and not sane either. And not even sane. It might work but it dont make it smarrt solution. (after all you can hunt ducks with grenade launchers but its a bit of overkill )

Also not enot all of the editors respect the settings in graph editor.

Anyway you can allways copy the prefs setting to the shelf for fixing this setting on tehe fly.

[ewerybody]

try it yourself:

• create new prefs
• try copy paste keys
• go to copy keys options
• do a reset
• try copy paste keys again
• copy paste keys is fucked

[joojaa]

Didint i jsut say they are equal... Thet means i tried!

QUOTE(ewerybody @ 03/22/06, 12:33 PM) [snapback]231925[/snapback]
* try copy paste keys again
* copy paste keys is fucked

Nope exact same behaivour as with resetted settings. Wich means theres some EXTRA stuff somewhere else one shoudl debug! wich means alias has fucked up in major way.

We should perhaps realy rebuild teh menus ourselves.

Whan i look at the prefs before and after reste ton theese lines reset actualy makes the lines syntaxicaly equal for me. Not single char difference.

Now then the real question is did you inherit ttyour settinsg form older mayas or not? When you initialy made the prefs vbebcaseue i didnt.

Ps i didndnt invent this solution but it works for me.
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PPS you guys do ujdnerstand you need to hit apply after you choose reste settings?"!?![b]
just like you need when you change any other options. Note taht mesn you need to have something selected in the graph editor. BUt hey im not actualy saying this because this si the way you allways need to do it if you want maya t read the setting properly. (this ytoo is glitch in maya philosophy in very many placres imho) I asume you can read error messages.

[ewerybody]

ok in my case:

I created completely fresh prefs. Not copied from the old of course. Now I really checked whats the difference. And I actually found something: obviously its just the optionVar copyKeyOption wich is set to "area" after a reset. Before it was "keys".
before:
-sv "copyKeyOption" "keys"

after reset:
-sv "copyKeyOption" "area"

So a simple

CODE
optionVar -sv "copyKeyOption" "keys";

in the commandline of Maya could fix the complete huddle as well.

[joojaa]

Sure thing is tough ist much esier just to update the gui imand how many users out there would beneifit form it?! Its not like you nee dto do muchh work.