Sgi, apple, aw,?

[alvarez]

Some interesting info I got from a good source...

Supposedly, sgi is valued at $700 million.
Get this... of that $500M is real estate.
Furthermore, the AW portion of SGI is valued at $100M.

Meaning that if Apple bought sgi, and sold off all of the real estate, they would be getting all the technology of sgi, their market, and aw for $200M. If Steve Jobs then turns Renderman into Maya's default renderer, he could let aw spin off for a profit, then that means all of SGI's tech is only worth $100M. Which Apple could pay for in cash.

Why would they? Well, they could.

Alex...

[blitzbo]

Then maybe we should put out pennies together and buy it instead. hehhe

"I put my faith in the power of my own mind."
ICQ#58898276

[blk]

realise though apples stock is down 50% which means they are ripe for a corporate take over
so i dont think apple will be buying anything right now

[geoffcrowther]

hehehe

it'll be back up on monday. i only wish i had a chance to buy some right now.

[blk]

yeah but by monday they could be bought out
man i wish i was rich right now S LOL

[firewave69]

Nobody rushed to grab Apple when their stock was one-fifth of current value, so don't hold your breath.
Also having $4bn+ in cash reserves would scare off all but the most determined of hostile bids.

[jtk77]

The whole Tech stock area in general droped though . They are just gearing up for computer sales in December , if IMAC's are under the tree the25th then no worries for Apple.
HEres the scary thing about the stock drop , anyone know the reason ? I don't remember any major anoucments ..do you ? Anyone know the reason for the drop ? If nothings wrong with the mac or it wasn't overvalued before then they must have made SOME kind of major investemnt . Thats how stocks drop that rapidly on Wallstree . You put money into your company for the long run and you'll lost stock only to gain later if your investment turns out sound . But who knows? maybe tyhey just were overvalued anyway , as I said earlier , the tech stuff in dropping becouse it was inflated earlier in the year.

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[blk]

i believe the person i talked to say the reason the stock dropped was because they havent been selling their inventory no one is buying those new g4 cubes
and they keep comeing out with new colors for their imacs and regular g4s which means warehouses are starting to fill up

[dan-mcfarland]

Apple announced that they wern't going to make projected earnings. I am not shure what was projected but Apple estamated 30 to 33 cents per share. Last quarter earnings wwere 45 cents/share. It says much more about the stockmarket than it does about Apple.
It is hard to believe that Sun, HP, or IBM hasent snatched up SGI ($4/share) to canibolize SGI assets. It would be much more difficult for Apple to addapt to the Server market than Sun , which allready own the server market, to absorb SGI assets.

I wonder what a Octane 2 would be like with two UltraSpak iii cpu's in it running 1Ghz each???

Just some thoughts.
Dan

[geoffcrowther]

jtk, you think thats scary?

the dow jones is at around 10k or so where only a few years ago was scarecely 2k.

there was no real reason for the inflation except the internet mania, in it self unfounded.

i know most of the internet companies from the inside and what is truly scary is not one of them have any hope in hell of ever making a dime, except the porn sites.

thats scary.

[stuartscanlon]

actually there are a few reasons for the dow inflation over the past several years.
Aside from tech stocks, which don't affect the dow that much, we have seen unprecendented growth in individual investors. That is, investors who are going through discount brokerages buying individual stocks. Another very large contributing factor has been a tremendous influx of cash from the Russia. U.S. policies allow for the Russian mafia and corrupt government to privatize government holdings and liquidate assets at the expense of the fledgling middle class, creating huge amounts of concentrated cash. The grey market profiteers need somewhere to put their money outside of their economy as it is in the crapper as a result of their parasitic actions. So, throughout the mid to late 90s, billions of dollars flowed out of the former Soviet Union and into wallstreet.

A third reason is that while corporate profits are up, workers wages overall are down. Wallstreet loves this phenomenon. Which is one of the reasons we have seen a flat market this year, wage pressure are starting to grow just a bit for the first time in a decade.

have a lovely day

[jtk77]

Why is this intire thread making me real worried ? Geez, seems our great ecomomy is running on nothing but a massive lie the more I research this , I think I may take plumming classes so I have some work when the recetion hits since over 60% of america familys are in massive dedt that they have no possible way of payiong off before they DIE ! scary, but the mafia thing makes since , our whole economy thing went WAY up just when RUssia was falling apart .. mmmmm..
geez again for lack of a better term.

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[fredc]

I guess we are getting way off topic, but what the heck...

I don't think that our econony is bogus. It is just that there are too many people with investment capital right now. I also think that the average person pays way too much attention to the stock market. The market is always going up and down, it is a fact of life. However, the average person never noticed before, until he started investing outside of mutual funds.

As for- "our whole economy thing went WAY up just when Russia was falling apart .. mmmmm.."
These two facts may be true, but that doesn't mean they have a correlation. I am not saying they aren't, just that their time frame alone does not prove this.

For example, there are more murders in the US when ice cream sales go up. That sounds silly, but it is absolutely true. However, the reality is that warm weather is the reason, not that ice cream sales have some kind of correlation to murder. Thus the time frame between Russia and our economy are not in themselves a proof of correlation.

I am not sure on these other issues. However, the US economy is not easily analysed. You can watch those boring shows on PBS any Sunday and hear several totally different views on the subject, and these are the experts.

Two more cents,
Urp

[pgo]

Urp,

Can you explain the association between warm weather and murder? Its got me quite curious..

(Apologies for diversifying even further from the original thread!)

[stuartscanlon]

not a flame, just a clarification. (yeah, it's all OT)

in any commodity, price is set by supply and demand. Generally speaking there is a fixed set blue chip (D.I.A) stock available. Now, if you flood the market with a bunch of demand (a new group of folks with a ton of cash) prices will react accordingly, that is, go up. The connection to the Dow inflation and the massive influx of foreign capital is not something I pulled out of my @ss. A correlation of events neither confirms nor denies a connection. Likewise, it neither confirms nor denies pure coincidence.

as far as the statement "our whole economy thing went WAY up just when Russia was falling apart ..." well, that simply is not what I said.

again, to clarify, a portion of the Dow inflation can be attributed to a massive influx of Russian investors looking to put their questionably acquired capital in a market that is more sound than their domestic currency.

cheers

have a lovely day

[fredc]

Didn't want to stay off topic forever, but I guess this string is kind of run it's course anyway.

Pgo,
You asked- "Can you explain the association between warm weather and murder? Its got me quite curious.. "

There are more violent crimes in warm weather (at least in the US). There are probably many reasons for this, but of course the sales of ice cream has no relationship ( or correlation).
I have heard police theorize that it is due people, who are capable of committing crimes, have more day light hours to encounter opportunities for crime. In the winter the days are short and people tend to be inside more, and thus less opportunity.

Stuart,
Thanks for the clarification. Actually, I agree with you on the effect of Russian investors. In addition the time frame you specify for our economy's growth and Russian investors can be used to help define a correlation. It is just that more facts need to be offered. Sort of like circumstantial evidence without the smoking gun. I don't doubt you have plenty of facts to back it though, so I believe your original premise. Russia is a very large county, that just changed it's system of government, so that fact alone would certainly convence me.

Urp