Shake On Macintel

[user_deleted]

Hi

Still no announcement from Apple about a "universal binary" of Shake - that is, Shake that'll run on Intel Macs. They just say "May". It's now June. Has anyone here got any more info? I have a MacBook Pro here that is begging to have Shake loaded onto it.

[director]

Are they even keeping Shake? What if I buy a new Apple Desktop with an Intel chip? Will Shake work on it?

[user_deleted]

QUOTE(director @ 06/05/06, 11:27 PM) [snapback]239131[/snapback]
Are they even keeping Shake? What if I buy a new Apple Desktop with an Intel chip? Will Shake work on it?

yes they keep shake and yes the new version will run on intel chips..
search this forum or the web for more infos.

the original question was when the new version will be available as apple planned to have it out in may, which obviously they havent.
++ christoph ++

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QUOTE(paddy @ 06/02/06, 07:58 AM) [snapback]238885[/snapback]
Hi

Still no announcement from Apple about a "universal binary" of Shake - that is, Shake that'll run on Intel Macs. They just say "May". It's now June. Has anyone here got any more info? I have a MacBook Pro here that is begging to have Shake loaded onto it.

Just curious -- I have a Macbook pro coming in next week. How does Shake 4.0 run under the interpretor? I've got to keep working once the new machine arrives and am hoping even the old version will have some what of a speed increase compared to my older powerbook?

j

[user_deleted]

apple says no, it doesnt.

[user_deleted]

Well hopefully it's not actually slower! The computer is shipping so I'll post when I've worked on it a bit...

j

[deke-kincaid]

They said at NAB (which was the end of April) that they are aiming for May. That was a goal, not a promise

You might be able to get the beta if you just ask (with money in hand ).

[user_deleted]

Beta -- interesting -- I have an upgrade order on the books of our local rep -- doubt they are connected enough to get the beta -- would I have to talk directly to apple for that do you think?

j

[user_deleted]

So as promised: received my Macbook pro, transfered my license and was very happy to find that Shake runs just fine, faster than my older G4 powerbook. Nice that I'll get another speed bump whenever 4.1 arrives. GUI is a little slower -- particularly noticable in HueCurves, but relatively speaking tolerable.

But then just for fun I installed Parallel Workstations and Fedora Linux. Ran the VM, installed Shake for Linux and ran that in a window over OSX. Damned if it didn't load like a demon and flipbook a fileIn node maybe 3 to 4 times faster than Shake running on OSX! The GUI in the Linux VM was absolutely unusable -- as far as I understand it Linux and Windows if you chose to install them run near native in everything but graphics, which runs dog slow. Trying to zoom my script was next to impossible. But the renders sure were fast. Makes me think I should work in OSX and then set renders in the Linux VM

But one would hope that 4.1 native universal binary for the intel chip will (maybe) approach speeds comparable to the Linux build. I suppose this is a testiment to the lean, mean nature of Linux.

The best was when someone else in the studio launched Shake off my laptop on their Linux desktop across the room.

j

[deke-kincaid]

QUOTE(jimmyt @ 06/16/06, 07:50 PM) [snapback]240113[/snapback]
as far as I understand it Linux and Windows if you chose to install them run near native in everything but graphics, which runs dog slow. Trying to zoom my script was next to impossible. But the renders sure were fast. Makes me think I should work in OSX and then set renders in the Linux VM
The issue is simply that shake requires opengl in order to run the gui. Well Ati makes some of the shittiest opengl drivers on the planet, especially for linux.

The trouble with rendering in linux is that you have to pay for the render nodes, which run $1995 per processor. Thats pretty cost prohibitive compared to the free render licenses on osx.

[user_deleted]

Agreed -- I'll be sticking with OSX even if it's a little slower. My belief is once the new Universal binary is released we'll see a significant speed improvement.

But correct me if I'm wrong -- OpenGL is not an issue during renders, right? Only in screen redraws and the GUI?

j

[deke-kincaid]

For the most part unless your using hardware shaders (99% sure your not).