Textures and rigging problems

[kropcke]

I was hoping that you could help us figure a way to fix a problem with our model. We have a rigged character model. Unfortunatley we waited till the end to texture it. So now we are plagued with sliding textures (uvs). The input listing doesn't allow you to move the order... and so we are trying to correct our mistake with a reference object of the model. But we can't seem to maintain the rigging inputs.. when we reload our reference object. Do you know of any export/import options that will allow us to do this?

could you help with this. Or offer any advice (besides the obvious to rerig the model). Or offer any other way to get around this problem

ian
scott
todd
john

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[flys]

Hi,
If you are using a smooth bind, all you have to to set the UV's on the original unbound model then transfer weights from one to the other using copy weights. However if you have swimming textures this probably isn't your problem at all. You are probably using 3d textures. You should bake your texture or use a texture reference object to fix this.

Hope it helped
Dave K.

[kropcke]

Hey Dave.
Thanx for the post.

However, we are unfortuantely using rigid bind.
We are in the process of trying to reference the character correctly. Referencing will allow us to alter the texturing just fine by manipulating the reference object, but the rigging on the original is removed so that it is no longer functionally bound. Hence we can't tell whether or not the textures are swimming - bleh!! We tried including the history on the referenced object, which includes the rigging (thought this was good), but this serves only to blow up our model?

More unfortunately, we aren't using 3d textures either...curses us!!! If you have any other ideas, your help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx again.

Scott, Ian , Todd

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[flys]

There is one more trick you can try.... select the skin then go to the AE. There should be a tab for the Origin node it will be named something like "Skin1Orig" if you select this node and turn off intermediate objects you should be able to edit the unbound surface.
Good Luck,
Dave K.

[kropcke]

Thanx man - trying this afternoon...will get back shortly.
Appreciate it.

-Scott

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[xtort]

thanks for the idea

We went into the texure view using the Intermediate object trick and deleted the new UV's, leaving only the initial UV's. The texures still swim. We then deleted the old UV set and created a new set and the textures still swam. NO luck with the intermediate object.

-xtort

[twedzel]

By experience I'll give this advise, do not use 3d textures on a deforming poly model... even with texture reference it still messes up most of the time. And for your 2d file textures, delete history, rebind and reweigh or use one of the mel scripts that do this for you. You'll probably end up with more head aches than its worth if you try to push ahead with it the way it is. The cleaner your model, the better.

[ibutter]

we are rerigging the model.
actually the way it is set up... we have a way of using indirect bind. So hopefully the backtracking will be worth it.
The model has been ripped out... placing new UVs on it... deleting the history (UV bug) and then sliding him back in.. and re"membership"ing him into place. The only thing that is hairy is the sculpt deformers... but i'll redo them.

thanks for all your help... and all the posts.
ian

ibutter