Which one is better

I'm trying to find RAM for my ABIT VP6 board and I found these. but can anyone tell me.. what's the difference between them and which one is better and WHY... from a 3d application POV..
they both cost around $145 at Crucial but can anyone tell me if they have found cheaper and reliable memory modules for the ABIT VP6... I'm sure you have.. just don't know where to look for them.... also. is the ABIT VP6 a 133 FBS board ???... thanks...

256MB, SDRAM, PC133

can anyone also tell me what's the major difference between
Pentium

another question....

PC133 512MB Dimm E.C.C 168 pins 64X72 3.3V from Siemens... with lifetime warranty...... would this work with the ABIT VP6 motherboard.....

thanks...again....

The EB is a better chip. The E & B stand for different innovations they added to it. Not sure which ones... something about the tiny copper wires in it being smaller? Measured in micros, I think. Anyway, I have ordered the Abit VP6 board; it should be in on Monday. I'll let you know if the cheap memory I bought works okay in it. I had the same questions but never could find an answer. The memory I bought is unbuffered but I don't know if it is unregistered. I found that the 1 Ghz PIII was about $150 more than the 866 PIII. I just bought 1 866 PIII and will buy the other in a few months when the price drops a bit more. I couldn't justify spending $150 more for just a little more power. To me, it just makes sense to buy the last highest speed instead of the fastest at the time (because of the costs).

No copper interconnects in intel chips [despite the name coppermine] yet.. its still aluminum.

E = Coppermine [.18 micron] manufacture process
B = 133mhz Bus speed.

As for the ram question search on arstechnica.com or go into the forums... there is several posts that deal with CAS 2 and 3 and performance. [AFAIK CAS2 is better then 3]

ECC is pointless for 3D work. All I get is event logs full of ECC soft errors on our crappy SGI 320's.

CAS2 timing is the way to go, and offers a significant performance increase. That is, assuming that the CAS3 you are looking at is 3-3-3 timing. If it is 3-2-2 timing, the difference is much smaller, and possible price variations are lower.

VP6 is 133... see:
http://www.abit-usa.com/english/product/mo...rboards/vp6.htm

Why are people still buying PIII CPUs for single processor configurations? Have you not learned yet that the FPU in AMD chips is far superior for 3D rendering, and costs a hell of a lot less???

Sean

your right about the FPU but dont forget AMD chips run ALOT hotter than PIII a PIII runs around 70 -80 f but an amd thunderbird runs at like 140 or around there somwhere running a chip that hot lowers how long itll last and its stability i saw a go on another board who had 2 thunderbirds burn out on him and he wasnt over clocking them or anything

running a chip that hot just bothers mean untill AMD can get that temperature down im gonna stick with my Intel chips but thats just my personal feeling im not saying one chip is better then the other

i know alot of people who went the PIII route because of the difference in operating temperatures

one of my sys admin friends told me the same thing regarding the Thunderbirds and overclocking.. and their operating temperatures..

the reason I'm looking at PIII's for single processor configurations is b'cos later on i would have an option to upgrade to a dual processor config.. and that's the same reason why I'm interested in ABIT VP6 ..though I'm still debating over getting the Thunderbird.....